Thursday, December 18, 2008

What Grades do I need to get into vet school?

Every perspective veterinary student stresses about their grades. How good do they have to be to get into vet school? Well that of course varies greatly deepening on the rest of your application. How much experience do you have? What is your work history? How are your scores on standardized tests? The minimum GPA to apply for veterinary school varies, but for many it’s a 2.8. Now, this is by no means the “recommend” GPA if you want to get in, just the minimum in order to be considered. So, what should you shoot for? The average GPA for each veterinary school of course varies, but on last looks the average GPA for students accepted to veterinary school is about a 3.57. To see what the average is for the particular schools for interested in, visit their websites and they typically show the statistics for their recent students.


Now, don’t stress too much over these numbers. Again, this is just an average, so it is certainly possible to be admitted if you have a GPA less than 3.5, I know I was. However, you need to stay on top of you class work, bottom line. Veterinary school has a very rigorous and challenging curriculum. Therefore, schools want students that will be able to keep up and excel in the classroom. Personally what I did in undergrad was set a goal for myself every semester. It was to get all A’s and one B. Obviously, I would pick the most challenging class, and accept my B in there while striving to get A’s in everything else. Now, admittedly I did not always reach this goal, in fact I think I only meet it a few semesters. But, it gave me something to shoot for, and kept me motivated. Don’t get down on yourself if you aren’t making a 4.0 every semester, it will be fine. Heck, even if you make a few C’s it can be ok. I made 3 C’s in undergrad; all of them were considered science classes too. However, I had good grades in other classes, veterinary experience, leadership experience, excellent letters of recommendation, good scores on the standardized tests, a strong personal statements, and a good interview.


Also, remember that vet schools will not only look at your grades, but also the classes you took. So, a student with a lower GPA, but took more challenging classes and more hours per semester may be more attractive to vet schools than a student that took a lighter class load. Remember the prerequisite classes that vet schools require is the minimum, so look to take more challenging and advanced classes in college if you are able.


My point here is don’t solely concentrate your efforts on your grades like so many do, work on other aspects of your application as well. Grades are very important, and you must strive to keep them high, but don’t stress so much that you loose it half way though undergrad. Now sacrifices will have to be made in order to get into veterinary school. I remember having to turn down many fun opportunities to study for test while my friends were able to go out a have a good time. I’m sure you will hear many undergrads state the “ D for diploma” line, but of course that doesn’t apply to you. I got so jealous of people that just “had to pass” while I was working hard to get in an A in classes. In the end it will all pay off.


Moral of the story is to work hard, study, and take deep breaths. If you do these things your grades will be fine and you should work hard to build other aspects of your applications. Remember, it’s not just 4.0 students that get into vet school, there are some “non-geniuses” like you and me that do too. Set your goals high, but don’t completely give up if you don’t reach these goals every semester. If you are willing to study and make some sacrifices you will make the grades needed to get into vet school and continue to do well once you reach the vet school curriculum.


Well, that’s my take on grades. While we are on the subject of school I will next talk about some classes that most colleges and even some highs schools may offer that are good preparation for veterinary school.

114 comments:

redfox47 said...

I graduated High school in the top 10% of my class with a 3.8 GPA. I went to a competitive College with a great science program. In order to challenge myself and become a more well-rounded person I went for a dual BS & BA degree. I graduated with this degree in 4 years but I spread myself a bit too thin in the process. My ending GPA was a 3.2 (this didn't include 5 summer courses I took and Got A's in at another school). Generally speaking I got A's and B's in College except for chemistry in which I got C's. To boost myself a bit, I retook Organic Chem 1&2 and got A's in both. I have 600 hours of small animal medicine experience and 200 hours of Equine experience. I'm not very good at Standardized Testing so although I studied, I didn't pull higher than a 1140 on my GREs. Im pretty sure I didn't get in to vet school because its getting close to March and I haven't gotten more than one interview. I am frustrated cause i am a good student but I guess I just took on too much in College. I still want to go to vet school but I am lost and don't know what to do at this point. should I go for my masters? What would you advise?

jonp21 said...

Thanks for the comment. I am very sorry for my late reply, I just now read your comment. Based on your discretion in sounds like you have a fairly good application, and I would think very close to being accepted.

First, if you indeed are not accepted to vet school, contact that school and ask what factors lead to you not being accepted. Many schools are more than happy to help applicants in this manner.

What you do after that can depend on what they tell you, but if your still lost I would recommend one of the fallowing routes.

1) Go for your masters- If you like the subject matter, earning a masters will be enjoyable to you and boost you application for the next time you apply to vet school.

2) Become a vet technician- If you like working in vet clinics you could look into become a fell time technician. You could even look to become a registered vet tech by going to veterinary technician school. You can earn good money and really boost your application with this route.

3) Retake some classes- Probably best you do this while working as much as possible at a veterinary clinic as a technician.

Basically, you could either improve your past academic history or get a masters degree and add to your veterinary experience. Also, consider taking prep classes for the GRE. I know you probably know all this, but it's really the best/only thing I can think of.

Also, you may consider applying to other veterinary schools.

Don't give up, many people are not accepted the first time. Keep working hard and it can defiantly happen for you. Good luck! Keep us posted on your progress and if you have anymore questions.

Ro§ie said...

I am a 15 year old High School freshmen. I am desiring a future career as a Veterinarian. I am planning on applying to Oklahoma State University. Could you possible give me the requirements?

Currently I have taken Pre-Algebra, Algebra, and Geometry for my math classes. Physical Science and Biology for my Science classes. I have also taken some classes that are required to graduate from High School. I kept my grades in all of those classes above a 95%.

For the next year at High School, I pre-enrolled in Chemistry, and Trig., along with some more required classes.

I have planned on taking physics and Pre-Cal along with Cal. before I graduate. Could you possible give me advise in other classes i should take?

jonp21 said...

It sounds like you are on the right track. For the most part, vet schools don't look directly at the grades/classes you took in high school, they will look closely at any classes you take in college. Therefore, it is important to take classes now ( in high school) that will prepare you for future classes in both college and vet school.

Just continue with science related classes for the most part I made a brief list of some classes here: http://vetschoolinfo.blogspot.com/2008/12/classes-to-prepare-you-for-veterinary.html.

If possible look into AP or advanced classes as you progress through school, these classes really helped me prepare and gave me a solid foundation in several subjects, but especially in Biology. Also, one class to consider that I have not mentioned before is Statistics. If you plan to go into research at all, having a good Stat background really helps. Further one of the some confusing vet school courses can be epidemiology, in which Stats is covered quite a bit. Many vet students don't really take or like many math courses, but it comes in handy when reading scientific journals and such.

For OSU's requirements look at thier website. I found some good VERY info for you here: http://www.cvhs.okstate.edu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=564&Itemid=666

Admission Requirements are found here: http://www.cvhs.okstate.edu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=341&Itemid=437

Keep up the hard work! Let us know if there is anything else you need

Anonymous said...

I'm going on to senior year after the summer, and then comes college applications. I'm having a difficult time deciding on a major because 75% of the schools I want to apply to don't have a pre-vet program. Can you still go on to vet school if your college major is biochemistry or something similar? I've been wondering about this for quite a while and don't want to sign up for a major that will lower my chances of getting into vet school after college.

jonp21 said...

Yes, you can get into vet school with any major you like, as long as you complete the classes required by the vet school. So you coudl definatly major in Biochem. At the end of the day, your exact major will not have much effect on your chances of being accepted. Check out this post for more info:

http://vetschoolinfo.blogspot.com/2009/02/preparing-for-vet-school-picking-major.html

Hope that helps!

Anonymous said...

I am a 15 year old sophmore and i want to have my own vet clinic and i want to have my own animal shelter. I constantly worry about my grades. I volunteer at an animal shelter and a hospital and i try to take as many advanced classes as i can to get ahead. I hope to go to University of Illinois. What can i do to better get ahead?

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ranas said...

Hi i am currently a Junior in Undergrad staring the application process for Vet school. I have a 3.55 GPA could have been higher if my freshman year was better, but my last 45 Credits or so I believe my GPA is close to 3.75. My father owns two clinics and I have worked in them for as long as I can remember. I have actually worked to start the 2nd clinic he just recently built. So i was very involved in that and now many things as far as starting up a clinic. But I have only experience with Cats and Dogs as they are the only animals my father treats. But a lot of experience I would say roughly 4 years or more. I have also done research for 1.5 semesters in my school although was not able to get a paper out of it. I also did shadowing of an MD who specializes in Pain management, I dont know if that helps for vet school, aslo i worked with the head of the neuro department at a Medical school for a small project helping him out in small things but again I dont know if this will help on my medical school application. Currently taking a GRE prep course and hope to take the test with in a couple of months. Is there anything you could tell me that would further increase my chances for admission, I have this spring semester and summer yet to work on things before my application is due in October. I am trying to get into UW Madison Vet school.Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

jonp21 said...

It sounds like you are in an excellent position to apply for vet school. It seems to me that your application is be pretty solid. Just study hard for the GRE and prepare for your interview. I'm currently working on a post that goes over ways to prepare for the interview. Basically, you will probably get asked some basic questions like to describe your biggest strengths/weaknesses, but you may get some off the wall questions. Just don't panic, and really work to highlight the attributes you described in your application. Best of luck!

ranas said...

Thanks for the quick response. Actually Madison doesn't have an Interview process it just uses a supplementary application instead. Do you think I should include my Non vet but still science related research products on my application or is that just a waste of time? And do you think the lack of large animal experience will hurt me?

jonp21 said...

Yes, I would include all your research experience even if ti is not vet related. Some vet eventually go into research and do a lot of human or comparative research. It is defiantly worth mentioning that you have that experience.

You lack of LA experience may hurt you bit, but considering the rest of your application it should be not too much of a problem. I know at least 20 people in my class that either had not had large or small animal experience before.

ranas said...

thanks again for the quick response this blog really helps and definitely puts some concerns to ease!!

Michelle said...

I just graduated from Texas A&M University in May 2009 as a pre-vet Animal Science Major. I applied to vet school but did not get in my first time- I know why.

I had experience, but probably less than I thought I needed. So to fix that, I got re-hired at the vet clinic I worked with during high school and I've been learning learning learning! My relationship with the 3 vets there is wonderful. I also did a 3 month internship at a zoo doing animal care and training. Great experience! Lots of work, especially since I was doing this in addition to my job. And now I just got a second job at an animal emergency clinic. In terms of Large animal experience, I have been riding horses my whole life and just adopted one from the SPCA that I have been training. Cattle sheep and goats- my only experience is what I got in my animal science classes. And, as I live in Miami, finding a large animal vet to work with is not easy... but I'm working on it. So that how I am building up that part of my application.

The #1 thing that hurt me though was my GPA. My GPA pretty much killed me... or I killed it... one of the two. I graduated with a 2.9. Awful, I know. It was great until the end of my sophmore year when life suddenly blew up in my face. To make a long story VERY short, I lost a family member, almost lost my Dad on several a few occasions due to various health issues, and my goodfriend/roomate was killed in a car accident and I had to pick myself up and move in with people I didn't know and ended up not mixing with. Needless to say It was a lot for me to try and cope with, So basically my GPA took a freefall my last two years. I kinda just went through the motions and the result is the ugly 2.9 I left with. So my question is this: How am I supposed to recover from a 2.9??? I can't really qualify for a worthwhile masters program to try and fix it. Am I supposed to just swallow my pride and retake some classes at a community college? I do indeed feel more comfortable now that I've had a while to recouperate from a rough couple of years. I just don't know what to do with this, though.

My GRE score was... meh. An 1150. Of course I also took it during my rough patch, so perhaps I can improve it.

What do you think? Any advice?

Might I add, your blog has been super helpful in a lot of ways! Thanks for keeping it up on top of your vet school load!

jonp21 said...

Michelle, it sounds to me like you have a pretty good handle on the pros and cons of your application. The experience you are gaining and already have sounds very solid. I would agree that your GPA is probably holding you back at this time. I would recommended retaking the classes you did not do well in to try and bring up your GPA. I'm not exactly sure the rules for re-taking classes, so that is something you will have to ask whatever vet schools you are applying to. I know re-taking classes is not the greatest thing in the world, but it may be your best option. Also, some vet schools offer a way to talk to them and ask how to improve your application if you were not accepted. This is maybe the best, easiest way to find out how to improve it.

I'm sorry to hear that you have faced such hardships during college, and I hope all is better now. Honestly, I would share those hardships with the schools you are applying too. If you can squeeze it into your personal statement and/or mention it in your interviews. The committee that selects vet students are people, and will understand how these experiences have effected you. Try to say what you have learned or how you dealt with these circumstances. It seems to me your a fairly resilient and can work in the face of adversity. Something that is very good in vets and vet students alike. Basically try to turn these unfortunate, sad circumstances into positives as best you can.

Lastly, I assume you applied to Texas ATM which is a tough school to get into. I would recommend applying to a few others to see how you do at those schools.

I hope that answers your questions, if not please write me back. Just keep working hard and I really think it can happen you. Again, I'm very sorry for all the loss and difficult times you have encountered, and I hope that life can resume as best as possible from now on. Best of luck!p

Michelle said...

Yes, thank you very much for your advice!

Ann2008 said...

Hi there, I have really enjoyed reading your blog. Quick background before asking my question, I have been involved with animals my whole life, own a large horse farm, involved in rescuing/raising money for rescuing horses and small animals, have done local community service, worked along side MANY vets for the past 10 years and looking into doing more this summer. I graduated undergrad in 2008 with BA in Communications but the down side is with a 2.9 GPA. Was all set on going to law school, got the testing done and decided I can't give up my passion no matter how hard I have to fight! My question is, what would my best bet be to help my GPA or at least show the vet school that I have matured since my early college days? I am thinking about getting second major in BIO most likely and hopefully excelling in that. I am 24 now, so I would be probably 25 or so when applying to vet school. ANY tips on GPA and getting in period would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

jonp21 said...

Ann,
I'm glad that you have found something you are passionate about and really want to pursue. I think a major in BIO or another science would be to your benefit. I would shoot to try and bring your science GPA to at least a 3.2.

I would mention how you have changed and matured in your application. Perhaps mentioning those things that help you back earlier, and how you have grown since then. Of course, mention your love for the profession and how badly you want to pursue it. I had a professor once that got a 0.4 GPA his first semester of college, then he grew up and made it into vet school.

I think if your really work to bring up your grades, demonstrate your growth, and display your love for vet med then you defiantly have a chance.

Best of luck!

Michelle said...

I am currently a 14-year old freshman in high school. I am interested in becoming a vet, and until school ends in a couple weeks I am taking biology and geometry. I am in honors for both classes, and I get high As, so I think I'm on the right track. Is there anything else I should know to become a vet?

Michelle B said...

Thank you very much for the great blog. I'm 25, and my undergraduate degree is English education, minor German. My parents kind of pushed me into the direction. Now I know what I want to learn and what I want for my career are two very different things. I am gonna take some pre-requisit courses and hopefully take a part time job at a vet clinic. I just wanted to read some related books in my free time and your blog really helped a lot. thanks again. :)

Anonymous said...

I just started my sophmore year in college as a biology major. I currently have a 3.25 GPA, which I'm not totally disappointed with, but I'd obviously like it to be much higher by the time I graduate. I currently have about 200 hours of small animal experience at a kennel and am working on getting large animal hours. I am also the president of one of our clubs and plan on joining more this year. My question is what would you suggest at this point in order to increase my chances of getting into vet school when I graduate?

jonp21 said...

It sounds to me like your in pretty good shape. Just continue to study hard and continue to get veterinary experience. Also, be sure to study up for GRE when it comes around. Also, look closely at what vet schools you want to apply to. Try to network with veterinarians/professors at that school. It always help to know people and get letters of recommendation from people connected with the school

Anonymous said...

i am currently a first year soft more in a university. I am a biology major. too make the story short. I have ADD and my freshman overall GPA was about a 2.9 my non major Gpa is about a 3.7. I have found out that I cannot cope with my ADD without medication. So I am on medication now and hopefully it will help me catch up with my life. I just had a question. I know many vet schools dont really care about what major your in as long as you take the required courses . I talked to a couple of my professors and they told me they usually look at more students who have taken harder majors but usually depends on the school. I am planning on doing some clinical work this summer or maybe sooner. my father is also a professor and he keeps on telling me to relax and I have a long time to catch up. many people also told me that I might have an advantage due to my condition with ADD and would be a good topic to put in your essay. was just wondering if i am getting good advice.

Anonymous said...

Hi, I'm a freshman currently attending Rutgers University. I'm an animal science/ pre-vet major and I just received my first fall term grades. My gpa is a 2.5 and I'm taking biology over the summer since I couldn't during the school year. Is it possible for me to still get into vet school and what should I do from here on out to boost my chances? Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Hi my name is Brittany and I an a junio in high school. Im working on my senior project which is basically about becoming a veterinarian bucause its what I have always wanted to do. Ive been doing some research about requirements on how ti get into a good school. I get good grade...I have about a 3.8 right now but Im a bad test taker. I was wondering how much they would look at the SAT? Also I want to go to Cal State Stanislause for my four years then transfer hopfully to Davis or Colorado. Do you have any advice you could give me?

jonp21 said...

Sorry that I have not posted in awhile, I have been very busy lately. I will try to respond to the last few comments.

1) For those readers that are in junior high/high school I would mainly suggest that you work at a veterinary clinic. Vet schools will not look at your grades prior to college. Just take classes that you think will help prepare you for college level science classes. Also, taking classes that will earn you college credit in english/history classes may allow you to apply earlier to vet school. I don not think SAT or ACT scores are looked at much by vet schools.

2) I agree that usually vet schools do notice when students take more difficult classes while in college. Also, I would continue to work on controlling and overcoming your ADD. I would mention in in an essay or during your interview for vet school, as it is a hardship that you have overcome. I think if you prove that you can continue to do well in school with the condition it can impress the acceptance committee. Just continue to work hard.

3) If in college I suggest you try to raise your GPA as much as possible. Sometimes you can retake classes or if sometimes people go on to get their masters after college to improve their chances of getting in.

If this fails to answer you questions please let me know. Thanks!

Nick said...

Hi all,

I am a senior in highschool, pretty good GPA, and all AP classes. I was just accepted to Azusa Pacific University and plan on a Biology Major. What I plan on doing after Undergrad is to go on to Veterinary School and serve as an Army Veterinarian. I want to do this because I grew up a military brat. I spent most of my life moving around the USA and Europe. So I'd love to serve my country as a Veterinarian.

What should I do to prepare myself for Veterinary school? Work at a Vet Clinic? Just work very hard?

Thanks.

vet2b said...

I just read you comment and can relate completely to everything you said. I, too, finished top of my class in high school and I'm presently a Junior at WVU with a GPA 3.2. Org. Chem. also gave me some trouble. I received a B in Org. 1 and a C in Org. 2. Planning on taking the GRE in April but I'm not good at testing either. I have a lot of vet expererience, shadowing, internship at a zoo and also shadowing at a vet hospital and a race track. Do you think I will have trouble getting an interview because of my GPA. Also, how many schools should I apply to? Someone said not more then 3.

Anonymous said...

I am a junior in college working toward my neurobiology degree. I graduated 14th out of over 800 students in my high school class and will be graduating college a semester early because of my course load and getting college credit from high school course. For about 5 years I have worked with an animal rescue organization fostering cats and kittens until they are ready to be spayed/neutered and adopted out. This ranged from kittens that just needed to be dewormed and have a place to be until old enough to special needs cases such as cats with recently amputated limbs, seizures, broken bones, etc. I would administer medication, do rehabilitation, give shots, and bottle feed new born kittens. I have also worked at a dog day care, a spay/neuter clinic, and a veterinary clinic over the past few years. When I apply I will have about a 3.5 GPA but I have made about 4 C's in college. How bad does this look? Am I going to have to do phenomenally on the GRE and have perfect recommendations to even be considered for an interview because of these C's? For example, last semester I made 4 A's (in neuroanatomy, developmental biology, american literature, and animal behavior) but a C in biochemistry. Does it not look so bad because I made A's in everything else, or does it make me look inadequate? How realistic are the prospects of me getting into veterinary school? Did I ruin my chances by getting these C's?
Thanks

jonp21 said...

No, I do not think you have ruined your chances of getting into vet school even with 4 Cs. Honestly, your resume sounds similar to mine when I applied. I had about a 3.5 GPA, but I did have 3 Cs during college, one of which was animal biology. I too was nervous these grades would really hurt my chances but I got interviews at both the vet schools I applied to. Yes good GRE scores and letters of recommendation will be very helpful, but I do think your grades will be adequate. Of course some schools are going to more competitive than others, but I think your application is quite strong. Best of luck

jonp21 said...

vet2b,

I think your GPA should be adequate for vet school, especially if you have a good GRE score. In terms of how many schools to apply to, I really don;t know for sure. I have heard that you don't want to apply to too many, that way the schools you do apply to feel more "special". I don't know hoe true it is, but it does make sense. Plus, this will allow you to concentrate on the schools that fit you best.

Patrick said...

I'm a sophmore in high school and I have a 3.0 gpa im not really good at math do you think that it is possible for me to become a vet?

stillwatershowhorses said...

I am 33 years old. I was an average student in high school. Lets just say I was an underachiever. Most of my classes were DS ( distinguished scholar...accelerated classes). I have ADD which was not diagnosed until adult-hood. I would really like to go back to college. I have worked for two different veterinarians. Once as a kennel/stall person ( but I helped with surgeries as often as I could) and another time as a dog groomer ( again I helped with surgeries as often as possible). I have 3 kids and a husband.
I can see myself as a vet. I have several horses, and a couple casts and dogs as well. I was able to use the knowledge I gained st the clinics to help with my own animals in situations that would have otherwise been emergencies. I know how to inject certain medications IV, IM and Sub Q.
The problem is I am afraid to go back to school at my age. I am afraid that with the ADD I will perform sub-par. I am afraid that with my family life I will not have time to dedicate to studying like I should. I am a very smart girl. Tests have always been easy for me, homework- not so much.
I am not intersted in a vet tech program, simply because I already know that they do not make very much money. When I worked for the vet doing kennels and stalls, the techs only made a dollar more an hour than I did. Grooming dogs is lucrative. I dont want to give that up, to make $12 an hour. yes I would enjoy the job, I just can't justify losing half my income and causing my family to struggle.
Do you have any suggestions? Is there a way to accelerate the undergrad program? How possible is it to get in to vet school and not do the undergrad part at all since I am an older, non traditional student?
thanks so much!

Anonymous said...

What is the best undergraduate degree before entering Vet School.

Nick said...

I am a junior at UCLA, my life science major is Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. I am getting ready to apply to vet school this summer. My GPA is 2.9 right now and i'm studying to take the GRE. I have 600 hours of experience with small domestic and feral animals, 500 hours of experience with horses and 500 hours of experience with cows. I have great letters of recommendation and I network with vets in Southern California and with one at UC Davis. I also have research experience and I am publishing my own paper on vertebrate morphology this summer.

I had a 3.6 GPA when I transferred from community college last fall, but classes at UCLA are much harder and my GPA isn't doing well, I hope to bring it from 2.9 up to at least a 3.2 before I graduate. Do vet schools take into consideration the university that I get my undergraduate degree at?

jonp21 said...

1) Yes, you can still make it through vet school even if math isn't your strong suit. You do use math to calculate drug dosages, dilutions, and a few other things but that is all relatively simple math. However, you will to do well in math in college to help keep your GPA up.

2) As an older, non tradition student you may be able to use credit from classes you took in college. Determining your eligibility to vet school will have to be taken up with the schools are applying to. I do assume through that you will have to have taken the pre-requite classes at some point in your life before applying. Rest assured there are a few older students in every vet class so your not alone.

3) The exact college you graduated does make some difference, but not a huge one. Similarly, the classes you take. It always looks better and is helpful when you take or attend more "difficult" classes or schools. Vet school like students that challenge themselves academically.

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Zonram said...

I have a 2.8 undergrad gpa from UCSD and a GRE score of 1260, with adequate experience working and volunteering with animals, do I have a shot of getting into veterinary school, such as western health? I'm thinking about staying another year to raise my grades and I was also wondering if you knew anything about getting into vet school in the UK or caribbeans w/ a low gpa?

Marie said...

Hi! I'm a junior in highschool and I've wanted to be a veterinarian-mainly for livestock or larger animals- since I was a little girl. I am currently planning on going to Harvard University, but I'm worried about the grades I would get. Do Veterinary programs in graduate schools look at the rigor of classes and the school's prestige as well rather than just the GPA? Thanks!

Anonymous said...

I am a junior in high school will be senior after the summer i really didnt care for school but ive always had an aspirtation to be a vet for many reasons. Recently it hit me that i have to try or else i wont make it so i have good grades currently but due to me not caring Before, i now have bad gpa... it is my last year of high school and i would like to go to college and do something i truely love and aam passionate about helping and healing sick animals but im afraid that my gpa will hold me back to getting in college that offers programs for becoming a vet where should i start?

Anonymous said...

I am seventeen years old and I've been intersted in vet medicine for a very long time. I have taken some college classes and sadly made a b in english101 and 102 I have also made a c in precalc, the teacher really shouldn't have been a teacher. Anyways I have always been a straight a student until my junior year. Do you think I should retake those classes and if I do will they replace the other grades or will it just add them? I want to someday enroll at csu fort collins and hopefully get accepted... but that is still a long way down the road.

Anonymous said...

International students get a free ride (academically certainly not financially!!) in to many of the Veterinary Schools in Australia.

I am currently studying a doctorate of veterinary medicine- masters level; having completed a 4 year veterinary bioscience degree with honours at the University of Sydney and worked two years in assisted reproductive technologies (embryo transfers, oocyte recovery etc) in New Zealand.

My course is over 60% international students, my understanding is that very little to 0 consideration was taken on grades and experience of full fee paying international students. So if you are really struggling to pull your GPA up- make the big trip to sunny Aus :)

However, I am obliged to add- that the 12 people that failed classes last semester were all internationals- so my advice would also be to consider that the GPA required to enter Vet School is indicative of the difficulty of the classes, so be prepared to work twice as hard if your grades are scraping!

Cheers

Anonymous said...

The GRE score of 1120 really confuses me, I had 3 GRE scores, one for Verbal, one for Quantitative, and one for Analytical Writing, none of them even came close to 1120, and as far as I read, could even come close to that. How in the world did someone get a score of 1120 and which was it for?

There is nothing that shows a "cumulative" score at all on my scoring.

I have 2 degrees in Animal Science, and Dairy Science, have worked with animals, shadowed a vet, worked in a dog kennel, and my GRE scores were 330 (Verbal); 500 (Quantative), 4.0 (Analytical Writing), do I even have a chance at UW-Madison for Vet school, is it worth applying?

Anonymous said...

Hi, I was hoping for some advice from you. I just recently became interested in applying to Vet school after getting pets. I originally was working towards Medical school, but decided it wasn't really the track i wanted to peruse. I graduated from Temple U with a B.S. in Kinesiology. I am attending UMDNJ for a masters in Biomedical Science. I have a 3.33 from Temple and a 3.73 from UMDNJ. I took the GRE to get into the program for UMDNJ and got a 900. I didn't have too much time to study since my finals were the week before and my application deadline was that same week. I have exposure to shadowing doctors, and i have great leadership skills (clubs/organizations). I was wondering what advice you have in strengthening my application for vet school for this 2012 class. The deadline for the application this year is 10/3. I am definitely thinking about taking my GRE again, but I do not think i can have my GRE done by the deadline. Do you know some students who have taken the GRE and sent it after the deadline?

Nikki said...

Your blog is really helpful. My situation is that I graduated with an undergrad degree in International relations but lately I have come back to the fact that I want to go back to vet school because that was always my dream as a child. My main problem is that I went to Ohio State and I barely graduated for various reasons. I basically had a 2.0 GPA. I know all the things I need to do to get into vet school but my question is would it be worth it? With such a low previous GPA would I be able to get into vet school if I went back to school, took the pre-requisites and did well on my GPA or is it a lost cause? I know I would also need some experience and hours working with animals. I would have to take a lot of science related classes which I generally do very well at. I dont want to waste my time and (money) if its just a pipe dream.

jonp21 said...

First let me say that I am sorry for my delay in responding to posts. I have now recently graduated vet school and have started my new job as a vet! Its great, but keeping me busy. I will respond to all the above posts.
First, for Nikki: I do think it will be difficult for you to get into vet school, but not impossible. I'm not sure how much you can raise your GPA or what classes you would have to take to be eligible for vet school, an adviser should be able to help you with that. Again, the minimun GPA varies between vet schools, but last a checked it was 2.8.
If you can get it to that level and you can get alot of experience, then I think you could get in especially if you are not to picky which schools you will apply to. All that said, it will be hard and require lots of time and money. Only you can decide if it is worth it. If it truly is your passion, then go for it. If your unsure, then take a job at a vet clinic to get an idea of what it's like (you didn't mention if you have any previous experience.) Again I do think it is possible, but there will be sacrifices on your end and only you can decide if its worth it.
I hope that helps! I promise I try to answer some of the previous posts soon. Thanks again everyone for reading. Please continue to read, and support my site by visiting some of the links on the blog and/or ordering items from amazon through the links on my site. Thanks again

Anonymous said...

Hi, I hope you can give me some advise. I m currently a senior in college who is majoring in biology. As of now I have a 2.9 GPA. I think this will hold me back. I have about 4 classes left to graduate and I am wondering if I get 4 A's will that boost it up over a 3 GPA at least. I have worked in an animal shelter for C.A.R.E. for 8 months once a week. I am currently working for a vet clinic as a vet assistant in the surgery department for 2 months now. I will take my GRE very soon. What advice can you give me into getting into vet school? I know my GPA isn't too good, but if I score well on the GRE and graduate with close to a 3.1 GPA and will have plenty of experience in the vet field when I apply next year, do you think it is possible to get into vet school? Please help. Thank you for your time.
-Vince in Chicago

Karina said...

Hi, I have a question about getting into vet school. All my life I wanted to be a vet. Bt then, my semior year I took AP Biology and hated it, just because I didnt try and my teacher was not a great teacher. So, bc I am good at math and physics, I chose to become a mechanical engineer. I hated it though! I went through my freshman year wishing id stick to my dreams of becoming a vet. I kept thinking thay if I become an engineer, I could graduate with a high paying job and help my parents and family with their financial troubles. That was the only thing that was holding me back, and my fear ofbiology. I hated all my courses and literally failed all my classes but one my first semester, and 3 of my classes my second semester. I knew why I failed. First, I hated the classes. I didnt have motivation to try. I didnt care for them. I didnt care for myself. Second, my dad got really sick, my mom did also, and I was having bullying issues in college! After my first year ended, I decided I was going to go after my dream of becoming a vet no matter what. So I took biology! It was challenging but I ended up loving it! And I got an A in the class! And thats when I decided I was going for it! I came back to school with confidence, motivation, and a dream to become a vet. I switched my major and am now working on a Zoology degree with of course my pre-vet courses. I am retaking all the classes I failed even though half of them are engineering courses. But I really want to bring my gpa up and show UC Davis that I messed up, but learned my lesson and am serious about becoming a vet. I am going to South Africa this summer to work with the big five and then next semester im studying abroad. Then im planning to get an internship at a zoo. Also, this year I am volunteering at an animal shelter. I am in the pre-vet society and the society for the conservation of biology and the american red cross organization. Do you think that I still have a chance of getting into vet school even though I screwed up big time my first year of college? I am definitely motivated and so far have a's in all my classes this semester. And I plan to continue shooting for A's. How can I show UC Davis that I am serious about vet school and I can handle the stress and workload? This is my passion, I want tobe a veterinaroan soooo bad!

Anonymous said...

Hello, me and a friend want to open up a vet clinic together when were older!
I want to know what ALL classes i need to take, and how many years will this take? Do i need a Bachelor degree? What all do i need to take as in college and school, and what CLASSES in those? Thanks! I know i need communication right?

Sara Elizabeth said...

First I just want to say that your blog is so helpful and the time you have put into answering everyone's questions is greatly appreciated!
I am a senior in college,graduating in 4 years with a triple major of Criminal Justice, Sociology, and Psychology. I have a 3.7 GPA and have made one C. My GRE scores were so-so, with my qualitative being above average and my quantitative being about average. At first I thought about going to graduate school, but that is not really what I am passionate about. I love, love, love animals and always wanted to be a vet.
What should I do as far as applying for any type of vet school? I don't have a science background, but my GPA is strong and my workload has obviously been very heavy.

MeganAnn said...

I am a junior in college and I have wanted to be a Veterinarian all of my life. My current GPA is 3.0, I just got a job at a vet clinic and I am working hard to get my GPA up. I will probably have to stay an undergrad an extra year because my sophmore year I did switch my major which put me behind in my Bio major. What tips can you give me to become a considerable applicant for a vet school?

Anonymous said...

I'm a junior in high school and I've been looking at what kind of classes I should take to go on the path to becoming a vet. I'm currently taking physics and struggling, but working to bring my grade up... I'm confused on one thing about becoming a vet; pre-vet school. I've heard of some schools where the major is literally pre-veterinary science but others only offer majors like animal science or stuff like that. But I just read a comment that said it doesn't matter what major you take as long as you take the classes that the school you want to attend requires?

Anonymous said...

I have a question please answer...are these facts canadian based?

ErraticPhenomenon said...

I see that you have recently graduated and are now employed at a clinic! Congratulations. I Hope that you may find sometime to answer my comment.

I am in my senior year of undergrad, however I have to take an extra semester. I have delayed applying due to an inadequate GPA (in my opinion), however, I have not been able to improve in much.

My GPA is a 3.1 and unfortunately I don't think this semester is going to bring it up. I had a 3.4 my freshman year--that included getting a D in a course that I retook (my teacher was unorganized and never met with me when I sought help. However I got an A at retake). However, my GPA plummeted afterwards. My sophomore year I was sick a lot and a very close friend of mine passed on. On top of that I was in a very bad relationship. Junior year, I took on more than I should have and my grades showed that--as well as my aunt passed away and I was diagnosed with insomnia and put on medication. This year, I have been sick since october 1st-- upper respiratory with pharyngitis, then extensive bilateral nephrolithiasis, that I'm still dealing with, then a sinus infection. Needless to say, I've missed a ton of class and my two science classes will take a hit.

That aside, I have an alright GRE 1200, I have worked in a small animal clinic as a tech for over 3 years, including during school which has detracted from my grades by taking 18 credit hours and pulling 30 work hours on weekends. I have large animal experience from both my classes and shadowing. I am going to try to get an internship at the zoo this summer before submitting my application. I will be attending VIDA, a international veterinary volunteer service where I perform surgeries alongside of a experienced vet. I have three or four strong recommendations. A good personal statement.

I still have time to bring my gpa up however since I still have two semesters left. But I'm afraid with my low marks, despite my reasoning and high credits on top of working, will not be sufficient in explaining the low gpa.

I am likely going to apply to University of TN, OSU, Michigan state, Ross, Auburn and maybe UPENN.

Do you have any suggestions? Do you know if vet schools like international volunteer work? Any recommendations on schools I should apply too?

ErraticPhenomenon said...

Also, I have been part of the Pre-Vet club for 4 years and this year I am President.

Hannah said...

Thank you so much for this post! I am a sophomore prevet/biology student and I have a very hard time reaching the As in my sciences (especially chem!). I am always stressing about my grades even though I already have over 100+ hours of shadowing in (and counting!), a job as a vet tech, started an animal welfare club on campus, do undergrad research with a vet, and take 18 credits a semester. I always feel like I am doing so much, but everyone is always beating me down and telling me I need to do better or I won't get in. This article really gave me hope that it isn't all about grades and that I do have a chance!

alexandra said...

Hi,

I wanted to get your perspective on my case: I have a BMus in Opera and I was pursuing a MMus at Rice when I quite half way through, despite lots of success, to apply for vet school. Random life change, but you never know where life will take you. I maintain around a 3.8 and I grew up owning and riding horses. I shadow once a week at a SA clinic and I am intending to apply for some overseas vets without border programs in the summer. I am 26 and will be applying next fall/summer. What do you think I could do to increase my chances? I am so panicky that a music background wont be a plus, but more of a failing, and they won't think I have enough experience. Thoughts?

Tara said...

Hey, congrats on you recent graduation of vet school! I am about to start my second semester of my freshman year and Siena College. I am bio major and i had 3.38 gpa for first semester which i plan on improving. I plan on volunteering at a horse barn this summer but that is not exactly a vet connection, its just work with horses. Do you think i should avoid that and try to go for something more related to vets or will that be fine if i do something better, as in clinic volunteering, in the future? I also realize that most vet schools require a lot of experience hours. Is it enough to just get these experience hours done over my summers or should i look for something to do while at school? Thanks for your time. :)

Anonymous said...

heyy im in middle school and i know a lot of people say ur 2 young to think about college but umm i am not the best student and later in life i want to be a doctor even if i do everything somehow i end up with grades that i dont like they rnt below 65% and i dont like tht i no tht im giving 2 much info but i want to accomplish something later in life so can u plz reply as soon as possible

Mia said...

Hi, I am a freshman in a community college and I plan on transferring to University of Illinois veterinary school. But I have on question, ever since I was younger I always wanted to become a vet so I did my best in school. Now as I am getting an associates in science degree and finding vet clinics to volunteer before I transfer to gain more experience. I am starting to have second thoughts because I one feel like I am not smart enough because I am really not strong in math but really good at science. Two money is another factor and really discouraging me as well. Three I am also having feelings in majoring in photography which is my second love but Idk because it isn't a stable career choice in this economy as a veterinarian would be, right? So, I was wondering as an fellow vet what u think is the best choice and I am also praying for guidance in this career journey.

Anonymous said...

I am a sophomore in high school and I am finding the science courses difficult, and I also do not have a strong math background. I want to be a vet though because I like to work with animals and I want to help people with their pet's problems. Should I consider a different career or are there other people in veterinarian schools who had the same situation I had?

Baileybean2 said...

Hello, I am 15 years old and I actually do the English system of schooling. I am not the smartest child in my year or even close really but I am striving to become a vet. It has also been my dream to become a vet and I will try to do so very hard. I have 2 years work experience in a vets office and I have a lot of leadership skills as I run clubs at my school. Math is my weak subject and I am very much hoping to get at least a C on my final (my IGCSE) by the end of this year! I'm not too sure if you are aware of the English system but I will graduate this year and continue on next year to do two years of "A levels" which, under my belief, are equivalent to college courses. Well, my main question is, is it possible for me to get into a vet school (preferably in Canada) without taking maths at a level? I would take Chemistry, Biology, Physics and ICT and would be hoping for a B or higher in each.
Thank you so much for reading this I hope to get a response!

Anonymous said...

HI,
my name is sophie. I am currently a freshman undergraduate student. I have good grades but am concerned about my amount of large animal experience or, more accurately stated, lack thereof. I have contacted EVERY equine veterinarian on Long Island, NY but each and every one has turned me down ( I contacted them about summer positions in the month of January). I am not sure if they are reserving spots for their clients kids or what. Any advice on the best way to convince people to take me on as an intern? Should I go to their offices in person or is that too pushy?

jonp21 said...

Well, I have obviously fallen very behind in answering all of these comments. I want to address a few of the older ones first.

Karina- It sounds like you had a tough first year of college. I don't thik you are the first or last person that will happen too. When applying I would be sure to note how you have grown and how that experience helped you. You could do this in your personal statement and/or interview.

Anonymous- Finding out which classes you need depends on the school. I have an entire post dedicated to this subject. Also, I would contact the vet school you plan to apply to be certain. This is really something you need to worry about in college. For high school students getting a good foundation in biology/chemistry/physiology/anatomy is good if you school offers these classes.

I will try to answer more questions soon!

FYI I have started working at a veterinary clinic. And it's a great job! So everyone keep working hard!

jonp21 said...

Sara Elizabeth- Given your GPA it definitely sounds like you could apply to vet school. However, given your major I would doubt you have all the per-requisites that you need. I would look into this prior to applying. If you need to take additional classes then do so and if you don't have any veterinary experience I would get some for the sake of you application and to be sure its what you really want. I can tell you from experience that love for animals alone is not always enough to make this job a perfect fit.

MeganAnn- I honestly cannot think of any specific or additional advice to give other than to continue to browse my blog. Getting good grade and experience is going to be the key. Also, don't forget about leadership experience.

Anonymous- Does your major matter? Yes. Is it all that matters? No. "Pre-vet" majors simply put you on the right track to get all the pre-requisites done. Consult your adviser for more info on that. BUT, I think, and this is just my opinion. That vet school look at the difficulty of your major/ class load. So being a bio-chemistry major with a pre-vet option would be an example of a major with challenging classes that put you on a fast track to vet school. However, you could also be an econ or business major. It just might take longer to get both you under grad degree and be eligible for vet school. There is a whole topic on this blog referring to picking a major, I suggest you read that as well.

Anonymous- I have no idea about Canadian school, but I assume they would be roughly the same.

jonp21 said...

ErraticPhenomenon:

Based on what you have said it sounds like you have done all you can boost your application. Of course bringing up your GPA is going to be important, but given the rest of your resume I think you definitely have a chance.

I would pick the schools you apply to based on what you want. Visit the schools, and see whcih fit you best. I will say that your best chances to get in will likely be with Ross and other Caribbean vet schools. Also, consider where your references went to school.

jonp21 said...

ErraticPhenomenon:

Based on what you have said it sounds like you have done all you can boost your application. Of course bringing up your GPA is going to be important, but given the rest of your resume I think you definitely have a chance.

I would pick the schools you apply to based on what you want. Visit the schools, and see whcih fit you best. I will say that your best chances to get in will likely be with Ross and other Caribbean vet schools. Also, consider where your references went to school.

knl1991 said...

Hello, I'm a sophomore in undergrad and am worried about getting into vet school. As of right now my overall GPA is a 3.44 but I'm worried it will go down a little bit after this semester because I may end up with a 3.2 this semester becuase of taking 17 hours. I'm also worried that I'm not "learning" like I should and don't know any other methods of studying than using notecards. I have over 2000 hours total. Four years total at a vet clinic that I also work for over the break, the first two years being an assistant, then two years as a Vet assistant. I have been able to monitor surgery last summer along with performing dental procedures. I've also had 30 hours experience with a vet who was doing research at USU, 44 hours as a volunteer at the zoo, and over 100 hours of animal care work study at school. Being a vet has always been my dream, I've never thought of anything else. I actually look forward to going to work everyday and miss it when I'm in college. Do I need to do some more other than getting my grades up? I'm also a bit worried because I live in SC where there are no vet schools but we have contracts with MSU, tuskege, and UGA for a limited number of students to pay instate tuition.

Anonymous said...

I am looking into highschools at the moment, and one of them offers a animal science series of classes. But then the others offer medical fields (mainly human) and the other is an academy which is devoted to science. I'm stumped, I know that vet schools don't so much look at high school records but which would at least help...-Sparrowhawk

Anonymous said...

I'm 14 , a freshmen in high school wondering can i still go to vet school even though i have extended alg..And would advanced science classes help me have a better chance to go to vet school.

Anonymous said...

i am a 14 year old freshman with a 2.8 gpa and i am currently takeing biology but next year i am takeing honors anatomy and physics. over the summer i am going to be helpin my uncle in his veterinary clinic. i am worried about my grades because i am not so good in algebra, what should i do?

Stephanie said...

I am just finishing my sophomore year of college with a 3.2. Chem is really ruining my GPA. I am in the honors program at my school and i am working towards a BS degree. I have worked at a small animal hospital for three years and I shadowed a vet for a summer who specializes in radiology. I am looking to work with a large animal vet this summer. I haven't taken the GRE yet but I did pretty well on the SATS, and I'm hoping to bring up my GPA drastically after chem is over. Do you think I have a decent chance of getting into vet school? Thanks for making this blog, it's really helpful.

Christina said...

I am just curious about how high of a GRE score I would need to shoot for, for vet school? I am just finishing my first year of college and grades don't seem to be an issue.. yet lol. Experience is lacking in the sense that I've shadowed alot, but I know I need to do more hands on with animals. I am unsure though what to shoot for with the GRE test.

Anonymous said...

I am a freshman (Sophomore this coming fall) at Roger Williams University. I have wanted to be a veterinarian since I was 5 years old when i lost my beloved cat Oreo to leukemia. I excelled in high school, 4.0 GPA, graduated 10th out of my class, majored in Small Animal Science, always on High Honors, etc. Now in college, I am majoring in Biology and double-minoring in Psychology and Creative Writing. I was excited to major in Bio because I loved it in high school, but right now, while I am finding it interesting, it's just not what I expected. I earned an A in it last semester, but this semester has been more challenging, so I am a bit discouraged about my majoring in Bio now. I know I am smart and a great student, but these science classes (some of them) are making me feel very stupid, which I know I'm not. I'm not failing, far from it, I'm just not doing as well as I thought I would. And I know, everyone keeps telling me that college is much more difficult than high school and you have to expect to fall down sometimes, but I am starting to think about other things to major in, but I think that would be pointless because I would still need to take all the vet school required classes in order to even be considered. It would be a lot more work, I think I would be better off just drudging through my Bio classes and doing the best I can do since the vet school requirements are the same for a B.S. degree in Bio.

Any thoughts/words of encouragement?
Thanks!

shinigamigirl953 said...

I'm extremely curious about hat kind of colleges would be good for Veterinary school. I am a freshman in high school, and I am failing Algebra and Biology (Because of PE)I would love to become a vet, and I am looking for pointers. What kind of grades will I have to get in high school to qualify for a good vet school?

Tara said...

I am going to be a sophomore bio major this coming fall. I finished my first year with a 3.44 cumulative gpa. I am interning at a vets office this summer for about 15 hours a week (I should finish the summer with about 200 hrs.). And I plan on setting up a internship with a Marine wildlife research and rehab center near my home for winter break. I wanted to know if I should try to stick with the same clinic each summer or switch it up with different areas? And is what Im doing enough (in terms of grades and experience)? Thanks for your help!

Anonymous said...

I have a bachelor in fine arts, but i have decided to change careers and become a veterinarian. What should I do?

Anonymous said...

What are your best recommendations for getting a job at a veterinary hospital?

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Hello, my name is Paul! I'm about to start my Junior year in college and I plan on attending Vet school after I graduate. My problem though, is that my GPA is SUPER low... It's 2.56 right now. This is mainly because my first 2 semesters of college didn't go so well. I wasn't really concentrating on school, and I also had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. Since then my grades have improved, but I'm not sure how to recover from this GPA... I need some advice. Another problem I'm having is finding somewhere to get "hands-on" experience. I am volunteer at my local aquarium and I have shadowed a vet before but when I talk to any other vet, I get no where. Every Vet I've talke to has said the same thing... They don't want to hire/work with someone who has no experience. I don't know what to do. I am really set on becoming a vet, and I will do nearly anything to do so. I plan on applying to NC state, University of Florida, and Georgia (I would rather go to Florida or NC State). Do you have any suggestions on these 2 problems? I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Hello,

I am a Canadian student with ~3.2-3.3 GPA in my undergrad, +2500 hours of veterinary experience and one paper that is on its way to publication in a veterinary journal. In addition, I scored a 1140 on my GRE and a 28O on my MCAT. I have a significant amount of coursework so my GPA does not change anymore despite perfect grades. I did my undergraduate studies on a part-time basis so I completed a 4-year Bachelor of Science over a period of 6 years.

I applied to the regional vet school in Canada (vet schools here are province-specific so Canadian students have only a single Canadian vet school option [except in Alberta]) and got wait listed after my interview. My application at the time did not include the paper and only had about 1000 hours of veterinary experience in a single specialty. The 1500+ hours of experience I gained since my application has been in a diverse array of veterinary disciplines and settings.

I am considering applying to the AVMA accredited schools in Australia. I have had some trouble getting some admissions stats from the 3 universities so I was wondering if you had an idea of how competitive I am as an international applicant at these Australian vet schools? In other words, would it even be worth it to apply to Melbourne, Sydney, or Murdoch given my credentials? Otherwise, I would have to wait out the full year and reapply in Canada (Australian schools start in February-ish). I know some of them look at your high school grades as wel and my grade 12 average is 82%

Anonymous said...

Sorry, its the Canadian guy wondering if he has a shot at Australian vet schools again. I forgot to mention that my GPA for my most recent 45 credits is a 4.0 on a 4.0 scale if that makes any sort of difference.

Anonymous said...

Hi Paul. Obviously this isn't the person who writes these blogs, but I wanted to give you some tips on how to get experience in vet hospitals. I have been having the same exact problem you are having: vets won't hire me because they believe I do not have enough experience (even though I majored in Small Animal Science in high school). Basically, what I did was go to all of the vet practices around my area, gave them a cover letter and resume, the whole nine yards. Some got back to me and offered me shadowing days (because they were not hiring at the time), but others simply did not acknowledge me at all. I got discouraged but I kept trying. So finally, I tried another one. They had an online application so I filled it out and sent a resume/cover letter as well. On the application, you had to check off the types of jobs you were looking for. I checked off everything except for veterinarian of course. I even checked off Volunteer. So within an hour of submitting everything, I got a response from the office manager saying he wanted to consider me for a volunteer-based position. I mean, experience is experience, it really doesn't matter whether you volunteer or are paid I wouldn't think. So, needless to say, since this was basically my first break, I took the job gladly even though it is a volunteer, and I start next week.

My point is, is that sometimes you have to grovel a little (I didn't grovel, per say, but you get my point). They would rather hire someone who says they would be happy with any kind of experience, even just cleaning kennels and simple housecleaning chores, walking the dogs, etc. Sure, this probably isn't too ideal for you, but it's a good way to get your foot in the door like the office manager I spoke to said. And plus, it's a good way for you to show them how dedicated you are. This way, you could eventually be considered for a paid position somewhere down the road. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much! You're response was very helpful. I will def give that a try :)

Jenna A. said...

I'm 14 and starting high school this year. I definitely know I want to be a vetenarian, but I don't know how to start out. Im taking biology as one of my science classes, and physics as another. I'm also taking algebra. Anyways I was wondering if I should take duel classes to help get ahead in college. I know it's extra work but I really want to do what's best and what will give me a better chance in becoming a vetenarian. Could you give me some advice?

Would it be a good idea to volunteer at a pet clinic during summer so I can get some experience? I'm willing to sacrifice to be able to do what I love. I'm determined. So any advice is welcome. Thanks so much

And yes I know I spelled veterinarian wrong.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for the great blog!! How much weight do you think the admissions committees place on LA experience? I am a college graduate with a B.S. in Biology. My GPA was 3.6 and I have about 2,000 hours of experience at multiple practices. I've worked with a veterinarian surgeon, exotic/wildlife vet, and two small animal vets. I also volunteer at a Wolf and Panther Sanctuary. I have a lot of diverse experience, but no medical expreience with large animals. I have a lot of community service hours and was a collegiate athlete for all four years of undergrad as well. I am just worried that I am not good enough! I used my entire savings to apply to 9 schools, and am waiting to hear back for interviews this January. I have been accepted at Ross University, but am nervous to go to such an expensive school with such a high attrition rate.... Do you have any advise for me on any of these issues?? Again, thank you so much!

Anonymous said...

Hi, I'm really young (8th grade actually), and I really want to go to Cornell University, for vet care when I get older. I know you might say that I'm too young for this, and that I shouldn't worry about it, but I want to know what are the things I should work extra hard on to get me on the right track. I used to volunteer at an animal shelter in Indonesia, and helped make "Topeng Monyet" (Dancing Street Monkeys) illegal. But then I moved to the US, and I'm trying to figure out what to do to help me get into the university which I want to go to. What are some classes that I can take, or things that I should focus on to help strengthen my chances of getting in? I have only gotten lower than a B two times on any tests I have ever taken, and usually get A's. So what should I work on?

Anonymous said...

hi,

I am currently a junior at the university of rhode island and am a animal science/pre-vet major. I am getting really stressed about applying for vet schools but my dream school is the university of pennsylvania. I have a solid GPA,which is a 3.68 but I am having a really hard time with organic chemistry II this semester and I am really hoping that it doesn't hurt my GPA and application for vet schools. I am lacking in the experience aspect of the application though, I have some experience but not as much as I should. I am on a division one varsity swim team at school and it takes up the majority of my time, so i don't have much time to devote to volunteering or shadowing. I was wondering if that would really hurt my application. I haven't taken the GRE's yet but am studying and am going to take them over the summer time. I was just wondering if you thought that I could be a strong vet school applicant because this is exactly what I want to do.

thanks so much!

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Anonymous said...

Hi, I'm a junior in high school and to be honest i didn't do to well my first two years of high school, i had a lot of troubles moving to the US, anyways at the moment my GPA is baaaad like 2.19 bad, but this last semester i pulled off A's in all classes and plan on continuing this until i graduate to hopefully save my GPA... Anyways i currently am taking advanced Biology and will be taking Anatomy&Physiology next year, but after high school where do i go from there? I have no idea how any of this works and I'm really worried that I just wont measure up, any advice is appreciated. Thank-you.

Anonymous said...

Hi. I am a freshman in a difficult private high school. I have a 3.5 GPA with all A's and B's and did well on the PSAT. I am in all CP classes but will be taking basically all pre-AP classes next year. My worst class is math (Ive had a C in math twice) but I enjoy science. I'll be taking AP biology senior year and things like chemistry and physics before that. I'll also be going to a program this summer that gives me a great experience including learning to suture.


Any study tips or tips on how to really get your grades up? Also, is it alright if I'm not the best at math?

jonp21 said...

Wow, so many comments. As you can see it has been awhile since I have updated this site. I am sorry for that, I have since graduated vet school and have been happily employed for a few years. I looking over the comments, I really don;t have any new specific advice.

For high school students- First, you actual grades in high school will never be evaluated when applying to vet school, at least not that I know of. However, taking science classes as well as taking leadership roles is a good idea.

Also, please visit some of my other posts, as they answer many of these questions.

Thanks everyone for reading, I'm glad this site has been helpful. I will try to update more often.

Anonymous said...

I need help understanding exactly what kind of grades will be expected of me once I'm in college. Also, what kind of classes should I be taking? And is there training (outside of school) that is required for this career? If so, could you give me a couple ideas? Thank you!

Nick said...

I've read through most of your responses, and am finding them to be very helpful. I'm a sophomore in high school, and I recently moved here from another state. In my previous school, I was in advance classes, but when I moved that school refused to give me the credits, so I have downgraded classes ( I've taken algebra 1 basically 3 times, and all three times I've passed with flying colors). Will vet schools frown upon me not being in advanced bio, or math? Another problem is that I have a friend who also wants to be a vet and she just got a job at the local vet clinic. I have better grades, but since she has on the job experience, im wondering she would probably get picked above me to go into vet school. Any help would be much appreciated.

Anonymous said...

Hi I'm at the end of my sophomore year in college and I currently have a 3.5 flat GPA. I also have been working at a horse stable and have over 600 hours doing this. I was wondering if what else I could do to make my application better? I don't have any vet experience. Also if I were to make a couple C's like in physics will it hurt my chances of getting into vet school?

WorryWart said...

hi.in my grades i always at least get A's and B's and 1 C. In this semester im thinking im gonna get a C in science so would that wreck me future on being a vet? I love dogs and every other animal in the world. but im really worried. can u please help me?

Anonymous said...

Hi, first off I want to say I really love the posts you've made and they definitely offer a lot of insight. As a now graduated and employed vet (congrats by the way!) I was wondering in your opinion how you think my shot is at being accepted to a school of veterinary medicine. I'm currently going into my senior year of my undergraduate as pre-vet, although I am doing an extra semester to a year to finish up the rest of my prerequisite science courses. Right now I currently have only a 3.15 cumulative GPA (which I plan to improve), but that was largely due to having to repeat my general chemistry I class three times, where I got a D+ the first two times. The third time I took it though I got a B+ since I took it with a new professor and my school is actually infamously known for it's horrible professors in the chemistry department. Another reason for the 3.15 is that I received a C in both my general biology I & II classes my freshman year, but I have shown to improve by receiving A's and B+'s in my upper level Bio's. I also have a lot of experience with animals where I've been a Teacher's Assistant for the freshmen class taken on the farm with our livestock since my sophomore year, so I am very experienced at handling sheep, goats, pigs, and cows. This upcoming year I'm working directly under my pre-vet advisor where I'm assisting him in teaching a class as well and currently this summer (from May to August) I'm interning with my professor who is the veterinarian at a nearby zoo. The summer before my sophomore year I was a pet care provider in the Boston area (mostly dogs and cats) and last summer I was working under another professor of mine for a parasitology research she was conducting for the university. I am also a tour guide for my university so I have very good people skills and am able to deal with various situations. One final note is that I am considering Ross and I actually met with the admission rep for my area and she seemed to really like me and liked what I had to show. I apologize for the lengthy post and I would be very grateful for any input!

Jasmine said...

Hi, So, I'm a sophomore in high school and I want to become a vet. I am enrolled in the vet assisting program there. I took algebra 1, geometry, and am in algebra 2 now. I took biology and I'm in chemistry and I don't know what other classes to take that will get my into vet school. Any advice? And do you know what kind of gpa they'll accept? Because as a freshman I slacked a lot and ended the year with a 2.8 unweighted. thanks.

Anonymous said...

Hello,

I was hoping to get your opinion on whether or not I should continue my root on to veterinary school. I am currently a junior in undergrad studying for a bachelors of science in animal science. This degree will give me all the prerequisites I need to apply. My GPA is currently a 3.36 and within the next 2 years probably will only jump as high as a 3.45. I am pushing to get higher but all I have left to take is heavy sciences such as organic chemistry and physics. Now I do have 3 years before college working with horses, goats, and 2 years working in a small animal practice. I also have an associates in animal industry concentrated in equine which also left me with 33 credits of classes which do not count towards my bachelors. almost every semester I have taken 20 or more credits when my school only actually allows you to take 19. I have not yet taken the GRE but will be in the upcoming months. I am just looking for honest opinions on whether or not I am going to get accepted. I know you dont have a crystal ball, I would just like to get an idea. Thanks so much for your time and any advice you may have!

Anonymous said...

Hello,

I am a first year biology student, and hope to become a veterinarian once I finish my degree. Unfortunately, I had very poor time management first semester, and failed four out of five courses. All of them were prerequisites. If I retake them, the fails will still show on my transcript and affect my GPA. If I get significantly better grades during the rest of my degree, and bring up my GPA, do I have any chance at being accepted into veterinary school? Will they even consider me?

Thank you.

Pixie Tree

Anonymous said...

I first went to St. Joseph's University for my freshman and half of my sophomore year. I then transferred to the University of Rhode Island and switched my major from Biology to Animal veterinary Science major. I struggled with my first semester and received a low gpa. The next few semesters I have steadily brought up my gpa and will hopefully have a gpa of a 3.2 when I apply to vet school. I will also have a psych minor and a biology minor, over 600 hrs of volunteer work with 10 veterinarians, TAing with two professors. I hope these will make up for the low gpa. What do you think my chances are of getting accepted? I also have a leaning disability.

Stephanie said...

I posted before asking about my chances of getting into vet school. I have just been accepted into St. George's University. Two years ago I never thought I would have made it but it's real. The most important thing to remember is to keep your head up and never stop working hard for what you want. Best of luck to everyone!

Anonymous said...

Hello, I am a high school freshman, and I've wanted to be a vet since I was like 4. I am taking agricultural science, and algebra 1, and next year I am taking pet science for the first half of the year and vet science for the second half. I am also looking into shadowing at the vet's office in my town. I have pretty good grades, and i'm bringing them up even more. But I want to know a couple of things, when should I apply for financial aid? When should a start doing college tours? And, how do scholarships work, can I uses them for any school I want.

Anonymous said...

Will being in FFA help?

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Robert Aneesa said...

Hello....
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Paula Stevens said...

I am currently being homeschooled through highschool. I am taking Algebra right now and biology. I skipped Physical Science due to the fact that science is my strong suit. However,math is not. I am passing Algebra with a B I think and science with an A I believe. I want to attend MSU (I live in michigan) and graduate as a large animal veterinarian. I have read tons of books on vet medicine and watch vet shows.

What grade should I strive for in Algebra? How much math will I be taking during vet school? What are my odds of becoming a large animal vet?

Thanks,I am sixteen.

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